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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by dishguy View Post
    As expected,
    I received the exact same reply....

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    "Bell ExpressVu uses a substitution technology, on the ground, to substitute the signal prior to sending the signal up to its satellite for distribution. Therefore, it substitutes the signal with a CTV over-the-air HD signal, such as those from Vancouver, Calgary or Toronto, and distributes those signals to all of its subscribers. That means that no matter where you are located, if you are a Bell ExpressVu satellite subscriber or a cable company receiving your HD signal from Bell ExpressVu - you will receive a substituted HD signal.

    Star Choice uses a different technology and its substitution is done directly in the subscriber's box. Star Choice customers will receive a substituted HD service if they are located within a CTV over-the-air HD signal. Where Star Choice does not have an HD signal of equal or better quality, it will not be required to substitute the service for a lesser quality signal."

    This is a very good reason to switch to Star Choice. Read the above response to a supervisor at Bell and then call Star Choice to install a new dish
    before the game on Sunday.

    I repeat: I get no simsubs with Star Choice here in Annapolis County. None, never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaMan View Post
    "Bell ExpressVu uses a substitution technology, on the ground, to substitute the signal prior to sending the signal up to its satellite for distribution. Therefore, it substitutes the signal with a CTV over-the-air HD signal, such as those from Vancouver, Calgary or Toronto, and distributes those signals to all of its subscribers. That means that no matter where you are located, if you are a Bell ExpressVu satellite subscriber or a cable company receiving your HD signal from Bell ExpressVu - you will receive a substituted HD signal.

    Star Choice uses a different technology and its substitution is done directly in the subscriber's box. Star Choice customers will receive a substituted HD service if they are located within a CTV over-the-air HD signal. Where Star Choice does not have an HD signal of equal or better quality, it will not be required to substitute the service for a lesser quality signal."

    This is a very good reason to switch to Star Choice. Read the above response to a supervisor at Bell and then call Star Choice to install a new dish
    before the game on Sunday.

    I repeat: I get no simsubs with Star Choice here in Annapolis County. None, never!
    I don't either because I have StarChoice as well.
    I still can't stomach the CRTC and it's crap treatment of Canadians though.
    I did my duty to report it so that it doesn't spread to the point where is does affect me.

    Have you???

    When it spreads will you complain then? It will be too late if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaMan View Post
    This is a very good reason to switch to Star Choice. Read the above response to a supervisor at Bell and then call Star Choice to install a new dish
    before the game on Sunday.

    I repeat: I get no simsubs with Star Choice here in Annapolis County. None, never!
    An even bigger issue is that many cablecos use the same signal sourced from Expressvu and hence their customers also get the same unwanted and illegal* simsub. Expressvu's wholesale service should not use the same signal as that provided to end users.

    * It would be illegal for a cableco to perform such a simsub. The CRTC has enabled it though by providing Expressvu with a free pass.

  5. #15

    Angry When will it affect you !

    Quote Originally Posted by dishguy View Post
    I don't either because I have StarChoice as well.
    I still can't stomach the CRTC and it's crap treatment of Canadians though.
    I did my duty to report it so that it doesn't spread to the point where is does affect me.

    Have you???

    When it spreads will you complain then? It will be too late if you do.
    To everyone who is reading this and things it doesn't affect you - READ UP.

    Proposals to limit rebroadcast or time shifting of broadcast material have already been explored and broadcasters are looking into requesting permission to have this practice stopped.
    i.e. you like watching CSI at 11pm (on a time shifted channel) in Halifax because the 9 pm broadcast interferes with ____________ fill in the blank.
    The original sim-sub broadcast at 9pm in the East would be followed by a blank / black screen at 11PM in the 2nd time zone because the original station requested it be blocked. This WOULD affect SC as they are, presently, the only ones who CAN do this. So you would be forced to watch the CSI at 9pm in AST zone because the 11pm from Central Standard would be blacked out, just the way hockey games are now blocked out regionally.

    This pernicious practice is ONLY going to grow unless subscribers raise enough of a stink that the CRTC thinks politicians will get involved and circumvent their decisions.

    Get active, start complaining now, before it becomes defacto standard operating proceedure and the CRTC uses the fact that they've been doing it for ages and no one complained as ammunition to continue the practice.

    The airways belong to us, not Rogers/Aliant/Eastlink/SC/Bell etc. Time we started acting like they belong to us.

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  6. #16
    This isn't a new issue and is related to "locals". It has been brought up before, oh so long ago when SC started allowing all customers to see all the locals that they carried. Bell at that time prevented it.

    This is already happening in the USA.

    I am with you on this as I am against the blocking of locals.

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    It's just a short step ....

    Quote Originally Posted by MeSat View Post
    This isn't a new issue and is related to "locals". It has been brought up before, oh so long ago when SC started allowing all customers to see all the locals that they carried. Bell at that time prevented it.

    This is already happening in the USA.

    I am with you on this as I am against the blocking of locals.
    Imagine Sunday, CTV is simsubbing the Jet's against the Dolphins, from FOX, while CBS is showing the Panthers against Oakland, and CBS west is showing Seattle against Denver. You decide you want to watch the last game, but when you switch over you find ten or eleven channels of CTV east, central, west, all Fox and CBS stations all carrying the Dolphins game because CTV asked to have those channels blocked out that weren't carrying Canadian advertising.

    This has nothing to do with protecting Canadian content and EVERYTHING to do with greed and averace on the part of Canadian broadcasters.

    We pay good money to subscribe to American networks and then are denied the use of them by greedy Canadian companies. At the very least the sat and cable companies should be required to put an * against any channel that could be sim-subbed and tell the potential subscribers that they may not receive the programming they are paying for due to protectionist Canadian regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishguy View Post
    I don't either because I have StarChoice as well.
    I still can't stomach the CRTC and it's crap treatment of Canadians though.
    I did my duty to report it so that it doesn't spread to the point where is does affect me.

    Have you???

    When it spreads will you complain then? It will be too late if you do.
    In business the best way to protest is with your wallet. When Star Choice starts simsubing my USA channels then I will be looking for a subscription through my internet connection.

    Three examples:

    http://www.satellitetvpc.g-review.co...ID=62287844513

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    Internet address blocked ........

    Quote Originally Posted by NovaMan View Post
    In business the best way to protest is with your wallet. When Star Choice starts simsubing my USA channels then I will be looking for a subscription through my internet connection.

    Three examples:

    http://www.satellitetvpc.g-review.co...ID=62287844513
    More and more US web sites are blocking Canadian IP addresses. All CTV or Global have to do when the problem reaches a critical point is to petition for another ruling from CRTC forcing Canadian IP's to redirect certain US addresses.

    This crap will just NEVER stop.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by usbhubman View Post
    More and more US web sites are blocking Canadian IP addresses. All CTV or Global have to do when the problem reaches a critical point is to petition for another ruling from CRTC forcing Canadian IP's to redirect certain US addresses.

    This crap will just NEVER stop.
    For years now, I have realized that the CRTC's ONLY mandate is to protect Canadian Broadcasters, and has nothing to do with the TV viewer. That was why I dumped Bell and went to Starchoice. Not because I particularly wanted their service, but it at least provided me with a functional way of watching TV without simsubs.

    I used to think that the CRTC mandate reeked of socialism gone bad. I'm not saying that I don't agree with many social programmes and such we enjoy in Canada, but I'm thinking now that if CRTC can begin to force IP addresses to be redirected (I suppose it may already be happening), then this is communism, pure and simple. The CRTC has a communist mandate. This would be no different than what is happening in China at this very moment.

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